Guest <Killhammer> Posted February 25, 2012 Hello Everyone! When I was reading the forums I ran into a topic that made me sad. It was about a Map Restart. It means that we would get a brand new map full with minerals but it would also mean that every single item you have and block you placed would gone (not sure about in-game cash). Yes, it means, no house, no faction home, no items, not a single dirt block. Nothing! I would like to give some Points why we should be against the map restart, and how could be the current problems solved: 1) Loose everything: After a Map Restart, we would loose all our stuff. I worked so hard for my diamonds and with my house, as everybody else. Furthermore we are still building our faction home we started 2 weeks ago (!!) I don't want to start it again. Nobody wants. I read that people would loose their 3 cities with over 100 people in it. Big projects would *poof* disappear. 2) PvP would cause trouble immediatelly: After the restart everybody would spawn at the same place and as PvP is on some idiots would just start to hit you till you die or make some stone tools to hunt you down and grief your house, making you unable to build a home. Some would fast-mine diamonds and start griefing even before anyone would have a house. Even if PvP would be turned off for a short time, people would be able to destroy your houses and believe me, there are many idiots out there who prefers destroying your house than building one for himself. 3) Loosing the Arts: Wool Arts(like Megaman Arts). Pixeltown. And such things. These would be gone. No Eyegasm (sorry for being kinda vulgar ) I would miss them very-very much and I think I'm not the only one who would miss them (+Think the ones who built those them!). Why people support Map Restart then? - you may ask 4) Get rid of "Ghost Towns" If you don't know what a Ghost Town is I explain it fast. Ghost Towns are small (or simetimes big) villages where no people play at all. Only griefed houses, floating signs and doors and creepy atmosphere. People want to get rid of them so we would get much more building space, so Restart Map - NO! I have a better idea: a New game! You ask "dafuq?". Well: admins would fly across the map searching for ghost towns. When they find one, they would enclose it with obsidian or bedrock, as they wish and get rid of doors, signs, chest and all protected stuff. Then they would turn PvP off in that area and set /warp destroy (or something like this) Then the moderator would invite the players who would be able to destroy everything there and keep the stuff (kinda...legal griefing.. sounds fun isn't it?) If turning PvP off isn't possible just invite trustworthy players only or admins could destroy things in creative mode, or just replace the blocks of the area with Air blocks (if thats possible). See? Maybe a new game/block collecting method or a simple solution (sorta simple...) 5) New biome: Jungle This biome will be awesome. New area with ocelots scaring creepers away , maybe slimes will spawn on ground. Cool! People say: we want that biome so we need to Restart Map- NO! As Minecraftwiki says:"Added jungle biomes (requires a new world or new chunks) with ferns and new wood and leaf types." See? New chunks. I don't know if moderators or anyone can replace chunks but as far as I know the territory of the map could be increased to reach new chunks. -Possible solution. 6) Running out of resources - mainly diamonds Many people complain about that soon we won't have any diamonds on the server, so we need to Restart Map - NO! Check the Map Render. we have 12.000+ diamond blocks on the map. Find it! Furthermore, if we have less diamond it will worth more. If you still have problems maybe moderators could make more games for winning diamonds or replace chunks (Jungle biome + ore replacements). This could be done in place of unused chunks, or the place of ghost towns. Or, maybe the chunks of /warp mine could be replaced (but I don't know what's above ) 7) Buildings aren't designed for Factions Yes, we have many problems with factions. I wrote a topic about it you can read it if you are interested: http://chaoticunited...__fromsearch__1 I know that we haven't prepared for factions, but a Map Restart wouldn't solve the problem. As the new map would not have any buildings you can't really hide or escape from the players, which mean you won't be able to build a faction home peacefully. (Same problem as in point 2 )Most players would know where is the base of the Faction XY and if you were enemies, he would attack you even before finishing the building. On the current map there are huge houses, buildings which may hide where you go and make people hard to follow you. In a nutshell, the current map provides more hiding spots. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 8) Supporters of Map Restart If you read the topics about Map Restart you can find some people supporting a map restart. But please, most of these people say that they recently lost their stuff, got their home destroyed or simply new on the server. They are "poor". A new map wouldn't really mean anything to them. But those people who are against map restart say that they would loose their stuff, melon farm, towns etc.... Those people are against it who currently have something important. So they would become poor from rich. I think the word of these people is more important as they are the ones who would really lose something. 9) Lack of information/ people who know about it If you check the topics about Map Restart, it's obvious that not too many people know about the idea of the Map Restart, which means they can't express their opinion. When this issue becomes very hot, we should ask many many players about them listing the points for, and against Map Restart (so they can inform about the pros and contras) 10) Loss of players After a Map Restart, many of those players who wanted to keep their stuff/building would definitely leave the server. This could mean a great loss (maybe loosing some donators!). On the other hand, those people who want a map restart wouldn't leave the server if we would keep the current map, I think. ___________________________________________________________________________________ People suggest creating a New Server for a new map and leave the current server for the current one. This would be great, but unfortunately Chaotic United doesn't have much money. Managers have financial problems with the maintenance of the current server so I think a new server is impossible. (I'm very sad they don't have money because they would REALLY deserve it!!) Important: I don't want to tell anyone what to do. (This mostly refers to the points concerning Managers and Moderators) They don't get paid for their work on the server as far as I know, but they are still working on solving the problems, so Congratulation for everything, Staff! Great Job! Furthermore, I don't know which of these points are able to be fulfilled. These are just my ideas. For now that's it. If something will come to my mind I will edit the post. Please fill the poll after considering my points, or if you filled it, you can change your vote if my Points changed your way of thinking . If you have any problems or solution ideas please leave it in the comment section so maybe I and/or the managers or anybody can find something out. If you agree with my point please put the "NO Map Restart" sign into your signature . No map restart pic.png 2.97K 3 downloads Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest holst1999 Posted February 25, 2012 Restart The Map Plizz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest <Killhammer> Posted February 25, 2012 Just now, haloman30 said: Restart The Map Plizz Map or Server? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest <Killhammer> Posted February 25, 2012 oh so it was a scandal? A made up idea? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlubQ Posted February 26, 2012 we might have to reset the map when 1.2 goes live because there will be a new chunk system called Anvil. Its supposed to require much less memory than the current one. It would help the server a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobcattt Posted February 26, 2012 Try thinking in perspective, we got new chunks and i discussed with my faction members, when map resets everything will be gone so do others, so we've an oppunity to win against other factions and our money and skill might not be reset, therefore there'll be a lot of advantage. Hopefully admins won't reset the nether. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CharlieJoes Posted February 26, 2012 Dont Restart it PLEASEEE !!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Piemakesiteasy Posted February 29, 2012 True True True Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest censink Posted March 1, 2012 Just now, haloman30 said: we might have to reset the map when 1.2 goes live because there will be a new chunk system called Anvil. Its supposed to require much less memory than the current one. It would help the server a lot. yes , blub is right: .anvil world format will include: other saving method less lag (due to saving) jungle biomes better lighting 2x building hieght not sure: flattened bedrock? ocelot spawning ability spawn heights of slimes increased (in slime chunks) i would say a map reset. we would lose awesome stuff and builds, but i think its worth it ^^ anyway: admins choice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest <Killhammer> Posted March 1, 2012 Just now, haloman30 said: yes , blub is right: .anvil world format will include: other saving method less lag (due to saving) jungle biomes better lighting 2x building hieght not sure: flattened bedrock? ocelot spawning ability spawn heights of slimes increased (in slime chunks) i would say a map reset. we would lose awesome stuff and builds, but i think its worth it ^^ anyway: admins choice I think ocelots can spawn in jungle biomes which can be solved ba replacing chunks+ I think it wont be the decision of the admins only. Maybe players will be asked too. I hope Anvil be solved my reinstalling the current map file or data or what into the new type.(Converting or what)...if that makes sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nater1217 Posted March 1, 2012 I think a map reset is just what we need I copied your signiture and edited with MS paint I'm so Pro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kushclouds Posted March 1, 2012 **** it, restart the map lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lolwut Posted March 1, 2012 Restart map? but only if we can keep stuff that we put in inventory please. well actually i dont know,because if factions plugin is still implemented at the time then people would just keep their diamond armor in their inventory along with their swords and go kill everyone around.maybe it would be best to just start new. idk but the admins decide Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kitty750 Posted March 1, 2012 i dont mind map restart it would be nice easier mining but if there was a way to restart chunks of a server without changing the whole server that would be even better, or we could expand the map border in a certain direction to gain more land Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nater1217 Posted March 2, 2012 NO. Map restart mean reset everything, like we did with 1.0 update. This map was not made for factions, and keeping the items wouldnt be fair. And i'm not oneof those "poor" people you talk about, i have 2 sets of dia armor plus 300 in game cash, 34 diamonds, and i still wouldnt mind losing it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gfxiang Posted March 2, 2012 I have a solution to keep all items while reseting the map (of course, it depends on whether the admins want to use it :-). I cannot guarantee that it works.) First, all players find their places in the nether, and move their chests and items to the nether. Admins could set a deadline for this. After that, admins reset the overworld. Then, everyone come back to the new over world and build their new home without losing their valuable items. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FreshhhhMinT Posted March 2, 2012 I don't really care if it is reset or not. But I would loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to try out the new updated server with DOUBLE HEIGHT!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nater1217 Posted March 2, 2012 As we say at Band Camp when going back to the beggining of the song: Reset, Reset Reset! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 5895 Posted March 2, 2012 Actually, when the map resets, you keep everything in your inventory, just not stuff in objects that are a part of the world, such as chests, dispensers, and furnaces. So the solution would be to stow all of your greatest valuables in your inventory. For some, this would mean filling it with full stacks of diamond blocks. To make a diamond block, simply fill the crafting table (3x3) with as many diamond gems as you can, then shift click the resulting blocks. Diamond blocks can be crafted back into diamond gems without the use of a crafting table and no diamond is lost in the process. This also works with iron, gold, and lapis lazuli. Snow (2x2, must be rebroken with a shovel) and melons (3x3, must be rebroken, less melons are returned) can be stowed in a similar manner, but these are renewable resources. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ☆Dude322111☆ Posted March 2, 2012 A map reset would be hard.... I mean, some people in full diamond might camp RIGHT where the safe zone around spawn ends. :ohmy: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
